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09/18/09 12:56 PM #219     Jennie Anderson (Dylan) Leah, I didn't know about your Dad building those houses. Ella Lee Forest was where we used to go play house all day when they were finished, but not sold. I bet we were 9 or 10 at the time. I can't believe my Mom would let me go all day to play in them. I do remember so much about those houses though, so large and so modern compared to my little house, at the time, on Cheshire. I remember how impressed with how prestigious your Dad always looked. He was the nicest man!

09/18/09 04:20 PM #220     Talley Hudson My house was across the street from the theater. At one time my mother was the usher and I got to see everything there. I never missed Saturday mornings. I won a crazy hat contest but could never yo-yo. (Still can't!) There was the news, a cartoon, the serial and a movie. I think it was less than a quarter to get in (or maybe it got that high before we all quit going) and candy, etc., was five cents. I could use all of my allowance and still have money left over. Another big thrill, like several of you have said, was to take the bus to downtown Houston. We'd look at Woolworth's for the fun little stuff and then gaze longingly at Sakowitz. We'd alway eat at one of the cafeterias, see a movie and then bus back home. Felt so grown up doing that. Now I'd rather kill myself than drive across the lake to Seattle in the awful traffic and try to find a parking place. Bus is still the way to do it. But I, too, remember separate water fountains, eating places and seating on the bus. How strange that seems now, thank heavens! Speaking of Garden Oaks Pharmacy--I actually cashiered there one time. I thought that would be such a fun job, but it was mostly boring, although I'm beginning to think it would be a fun job now. That or the person who checks your receipt when you leave Costco. About my speed.

09/18/09 06:29 PM #221     Jennie Anderson (Dylan) Talley, I forgot about the Woolsworth. Oh my, did we have fun exploring the new make-up, mascara and lipsticks. There was a foto booth, I just remembered as I was reading your post, where we would cram into it to have our pictures taken. Those black and whites were probably my best pictures I've taken b/c I was posing b/c I wanted to, not because I had to. I wonder if anyone still has any of those old pictures. Did they fade like my kids colored pictures in the 70 and early 80's? I did go to St. Matthew's. Wasn't Chip Holiman's Dad our teacher one year at Sunday School? I think we were asked that year to sign a promise we would never drink alcohol. I didn't sign it b/c I had a terrible fear of breaking promises to God. It is a good thing too, b/c I would have broken that for sure. I always found Sunday school an awkward experience for me. I hated going, but there was no way to get out of it. Remember it was not only water fountains, and buses it was having to sit in the balcony at a theater and having separate restrooms. Painful memories to me now.

09/18/09 09:31 PM #222     John Leediker Just a quick FYI for all......my wife just got her copy of this week's People Magazine.....there is a lot in it about Patrick Swayze, including mention of Waltrip HS and pics of him in his football uniform....also some pics of Patsy. I am sure it will be on newsstands everywhere by tomorrow......that's all for now. -John

09/19/09 07:02 AM #223     Lindy Clarke (Hall) Well, this is just too much fun... waaay better than Classmates site. Seeing those yo-yo contests... so impressed... got a green Dunlop, and another and another...learned a few tricks, but never enough to touch the skills I saw there. Never went on stage... Totally forgot about that. Sakowitz, I only went there with my mother, the only place you could go to eat and get a nice pot of hot tea (we're British, had to have tea). Leah, I had no idea your dad built our house in Mangum Manor.... the same builder built most of them, so I'm sure he did ours. Great house, solid as a rock. I regret talking my mother into selling it... values skyrocketed shortly after she sold it. Kay, you were married to Dan Baker? I remember him from the stables, he was so good-looking, and I had a crush on him for a few months... When you said Glen Cadenas, did you mean Cardenas?... great guy, he helped me a lot when I first got my horse, which was only "green-broke". He lived on Stonecrest off Ella... not sure where he went to school. At the stables we had kids from Reagan, Hamilton, St Ambrose, St Pius, St Thomas, St Agnes, and one from Incarnate Word (none from St Rose). Yes, Buddy's sister's name was Vicki.... all these years I have misremembered that... I remember her being in one of my classes at Black, so she must have been in our grade, unless she was taking a make-up class. We moved here in '57, and it was several months before someone told me not to drink out of the colored fountain, so I didn't. I remember thinking all those special rules about black people were "odd"... and everyone seemed so matter-of-fact about it. I think the last movie I ever saw at Garden Oaks Theater was "Jaws"... not completely sure, but I think so. I need to start taking notes, while typing this, I can't recall the other posts I wanted to reference. Hi Mike Germany! Hi Tam Siedow! so cool to read your posts... I need to get Larry on here, he just moved back to Texas, north of Austin. Linda & Suzie... I think Larry Forson was in our grade, but he bounced back and forth between Black, Hamilton, Waltrip & Reagan.... can he be added to the list?

09/19/09 09:34 PM #224     Leah Favella I got my Peoples today..what a wonderful love story and inserts from his book coming out 9/29...Great pics of Buddy Sr. and Patsy and his last pic 8/07...Cancer is a Bitch....I am a survivor.... Woolworth makeup..Hey Jennie I remember the photo booth..and I went with y'all...

09/20/09 01:09 AM #225     Lindy Clarke (Hall) I think I heard on some interview show, that Patrick met his wife when she was around 16 yrs old, perhaps at his mother's dance studio(?)... was she from here? does anyone know which school she attended? ... and an oops from my other post, yes, the yo-yo was a Duncan, not a Dunlop... I guess. I taped a PBS special about the Montrose area of Houston which I finally watched.... having lived in Montrose in late 60's, I've always loved that area. Rather expensive now, but still eclectic. A few tidbits that were news to me: Montrose was named after a town in Scotland. Names of some former residents... Ross Sterling (former governor & the founder of Humble Oil), Howard Hughes (of course), Lyndon B. Johnson (when he was a teacher), Walter Cronkite, and the biggest surprise was that Clark Gable had once lived on Hyde Park (in the late 20's). I thought I knew every school in our area, but where was Cooley Elementary? In 6th Grade, at Oak Forest, there was a girl named Laura Hatfield, usually had her long brown hair in braids... she didn't seem to be with us at Black, did anyone know her? Also, Linda Murdock, she was at Black in 7th Grade, maybe 8th Grade, and then disappeared. There was a Roger, that lived on Saxon, in Mangum Manor, and one of his parents was a teacher, does anyone know which Roger that was? Ferrell or Felton, or something like that... his mother was a fantastic artist...

09/20/09 01:56 PM #226     Jennie Anderson (Dylan) Robby, That was a great ride this morning. I kept up better than I thought I would. To anyone who might be interested..... There is a private high school in the Waltrip area that is looking for a math teacher for the fall semester. The present teacher is very ill and will not be able to return to school for at least the first semester. The school is a great place to work, I tutor there a lot. The courses are Algebra1, Pre Cal and Advanced Pre Cal. If you have a degree in something and love to teach higher level math; they do have TE's with answers, just contact me through my account on this site. If you are retired and want an opportunity to help kids in this way, here is your opportunity. If you would like a teaching job without the stress of public school, here is your chance. I am loving this Texans/Tennesse game this afternoon. Hey Talley, how about Washington beating USC yesterday????

09/20/09 04:05 PM #227     Jennie Anderson (Dylan) Leah, I loved those pictures, especially after you helped me pick out Woolsworth make-up to wear in them. I bought my People magazine yesterday. Patsy was adorable. I loved her big smile. I wonder what has happened to Bambi? She was soooo beautiful. Do you know? I would love to contact Patsy with a little card, but I don't know how to, do you?

09/20/09 10:03 PM #228     Talley Hudson OMG! I almost had a heart attack watching the Huskies beat USC (University of Spoiled Children). What a day it was and proof that heart still counts. Their coach has taught them to believe, and it showed. BTW, Mr. Holiman was our Sunday School teacher at one time, Jennie. I don't remember much about it. Did I take the pledge? I hope not because I haven't given up alcohol! Glad you guys got out for your ride today. You should have been in Seattle--awesome day!

09/21/09 07:52 AM #229     Stephen Ray Puckett I went to St Matthew's most of K-12. I think there it was we were presented with That Pledge. I remember asking at the time about folks in the Bible drinking wine so why were we to sign this thing? My question was NOT well received. I don't recall signing it but probably did - I didn't drink then and probably wouldn't in the foreseeable future which was very short for a kid, just a few months. Our teacher in the last few years was Mrs. Barta, who was also my English teacher for a while. She did try & was nice but Sunday School was so-o-o boring. When I taught Sunday School (jr. high ages) for a few years in Austin, I put the emphasis on fellowship over lecturing & drudgework. The kids responded very favorably - it was much more interesting to me as well.

09/21/09 09:24 AM #230     Talley Hudson Stephen, that was Mary Lois Barden. I don't recall her teaching methods any more, but she was one of the sweetest, dearest teachers I had anywhere. It does seem like Sunday School was typically boring--they were just ordinary parents trying to do their best with fidgety teenagers. Sounds like you learned from that and were able to make the lessons more relevant. I admire anyone who can be closed up in a room full of children, especially junior high age!!

09/23/09 08:33 PM #231     Mary Holland May I digress and tell a story that happened in Lourena Cook's advanced art class when I was a senior? It was rodeo week and that meant many of the girls in their denim skirts with the white leatherette fringe around the bottoms, western shirts and boots if we had them Boys were in jeans and western shirts and boots and most of us had those little clip-on "Go Texan" ties. A boy about our age, wearing a suit and tie, wandered into the room. He was on Spring Break from a high school in Connecticut and he wanted to see what schools in Texas were like. It was obvious to us that to him Texas was like some exotic country. At rodeo time people all over town dressed western, even to work in offices. So we easily convinced him that in Texas everybody dressed like that all the time. I had a horse and so did another girl so we mentioned our horses. Soon other students had tales about their own (imaginary) horses. He just ate it up and was so glad to find out what schools in Texas really were like, so he could tell all of his friends when he got home. His stories must have struck them like stories of strange native tribes on PBS. They all wore suits and ties to school! :-)

09/23/09 09:00 PM #232     Jennie Anderson (Dylan) That is the coolest story. Can you just imagine? I bet he still tells about it, if he is still able! I loved my rodeo clothes. I loved the whole rodeo, horses thing!

09/24/09 08:10 AM #233     Mildred Sue (Suzie) May (Cunningham) Recent posts have included stories about riding the bus to downtown Houston to see movies, to "lunch," & to shop. Apparently, I was a semi-deprived youth. I remember being allowed only a few such trips. Perhaps that's one of the reasons that they are so memorable to me. The first trip was with Linda Hutto & her mother; we ate at the Azalea Terrace in Foley's & saw "Love Me Tender." The only other trip that I remember was to see the rodeo parade. I know that we ate at the LC Cafeteria. I don't really remember the parade. I do remember our group moving through a crowd on Main Street in the block where the Lerner's & Three Sister's stores were. The crowd (mob) was traveling north, & we were moving south. I became separated from our group, & I was being pushed along in the opposite direction from the way I wanted/needed to go. I must have had a paniced expression because a young soldier rescued me by pulling me into the entrance area of one of the shops. Thank God for that observant, kind young man. "Thank you" barely covered my appreciation. After the crowd passed, the soldier continued north, & I was able to go south & find my group. It was a very scary experience!

09/24/09 04:11 PM #234     Janne Semeyn (Boone) Saturday bus trips downtown. . . I can remember taking them beginning in the fifth grade, but that was because my older sister went with me. I think by the time I was in junior high I was allowed to go with my friends (usually Jennie) and no sister to chaperone! The LC Cafteria - oh, I loved that place. It seems like they had the best fried chicken. There was a very small restaurant (maybe it just had take-out) on Shephard, north of 43rd street that my family would get fried chicken and fried shrimp dinners. Mmmmmmm. The best! Can't remember the name though. Mary, I love your story about the visiting student! I'm sure he did have many tales to tell about those strange Texans after returning home! Janne

09/24/09 06:24 PM #235     Stephen Ray Puckett Photos of items from the 8/19/65 Beatles concert in Houston: tickets, poster, etc. http://www.rarebeatles.com/photopg7/hous865.htm Speaking of restaurants, we used to get BBQ from a restaurant on Shepherd (as I recall) that had an entrance in the back for white folks - no sitdown facilities for them. It seems like a different universe than these days. About The Fat Stock Show & Rodeo, I used to work for First Interstate Bank which bought out the big Texas bank in the early 1990's. We had a conference call with them but could hear a lot of music in the background. The Texas folks explained that it was just the rodeo parade and to ignore it so we got to listen to it in the background for an hour or 2. Afterward I explained to my team what it was all about and why Houstonians would think it was OK to have an important conference call with parade music background.

09/24/09 10:10 PM #236     Lindy Clarke (Hall) I saw on John Leediker's profile, that he used to be in the band "Dueces Wild"... did anyone here ever go see them? They were really good! I only knew two of the band members, Gordon ("Boo") Barnette (Chip Barnette's brother) and Paul Viviano (I think)... now I see John Leediker was in it, and am wondering who else was in it.

09/24/09 10:37 PM #237     John Leediker Lindy, thanks for the comments on Deuces Wild....we had loads of fun playing back in those days and some interesting experiences. The band consisted of Charles Webb (lead guitar), Rick Slayton (drums), Gordon (Boo Boo) Barnette (bass guitar), myself (rhythm guitar), Mike Angeli (lead singer), and Harold Bailey (keyboards). All but Mike were Waltrip guys. I have completely lost touch with all of them....if anyone knows where any of the others are, please ask them to sign on here....I would love to hear from them. I am sure Stephen Puckett remembers some of the guys I mentioned because some of us were in the Waltrip Band together. We played lots of parties and at some of the Houston area teen clubs.....like Teen Hall in Pasadena, and The Catacombs that was on Loop 610....anyone remember those? We worked once at Teen Hall with BJ Thomas before he made it big....and were the opening band at The Catacombs for The Outsiders (Time Won't Let Me). While I was going to U.of H. I worked for a sound system company making sound and speaker systems for various bands. I got to know Mickey Gilley and Johnnie Lee, Johnny and Edgar Winter, and some other successful musicians during that time. The U.of H. finally became too demanding and I had to give up the music "career" for a real one in Engineering....been doing that ever since I got my degree and haven't touched a guitar in ages.....but it all brings back a lot of good memories. I was just at my Mom's in Houston earlier this month and found a picture of The Deuces Wild that she had. I will see if I can get it scanned and will post it here.

09/24/09 10:59 PM #238     John Leediker The comments on the various restaurants reminds me....do any of you remember Doyle's Delicatessen? (that spelling looks wrong, but the dictionary says it's OK :-))I know it is still there....now on 34th St....but I wonder how many remember when it originally opened and was on Oak Forest just north of 34th St on the west side of the street. I remember they used to have a sandwich they called The Flying Saucer....it was some sort of thinly sliced ham on an onion bun with poppy seeds....those things were great! Seems I remember their pizza was pretty good too. I had dinner there (the new location) with my wife and Mom when we were in Houston a couple of weeks ago....it is still good, but nothing like the good old days when they first opened. I also seem to remember a place called the $1.19 Steak House. I think it was on Shepard Dr. somewhere north of 43rd St. You could actually get a pretty decent steak dinner for $1.19 there back in those days.....now you can't even get a glass of iced tea for that :) I am surprised nobody has mentioned the bowling alley that was on 43rd St. right next to what was then Talley's Record Shop. Both have been gone for lots of years....anybody remember those? It's nice to recall all the old Oak Forest places.

09/25/09 04:17 AM #239     Lindy Clarke (Hall) Yes, John, many, many memories of all those places... loved Doyles there, but don't think I ever went to it after they moved... it was close to the Oak Forest pool. Actually there is a tiny street there, across from Doyle's, named Lou Ellen, and that's where BJ Thomas lived. How about the Dugan Drugstore on the corner, by the record store & bowling alley, which had a soda fountain/snack bar in back, where we used to get cherry-cokes... but they put mayo in their grilled cheese sandwiches, even when you asked them not to! Yes, I hope you get that photo scanned. Maybe Paul Viviano joined after you had left the Dueces Wild, because he played keyboard, and you didn't mention a keyboard. You played at some teen-club in Spring Branch, too, because I went to that one, but I can't recall the name of it. I'll ask my sister Wendy, she went more often than I did, because she and her friends were all his age. I saw you all play at the Catacombs, we only knew Boo, and even though there were a lot of "us", there was a big crowd, and we all lost each other for most of the time there. It was so funny to watch Boo play, he'd be really serious one minute, and then laughing, and then serious, and then laughing... Oh, maybe that Spring Branch club was the Catacombs 2?

09/25/09 05:04 AM #240     Lindy Clarke (Hall) John, perhaps you didn't know that Boo-Boo (Gordon Barnette) died back in the early '70s. It was drugs. Such a waste, such a loss. I had a new baby at the time, and didn't hear about it until a few weeks later. I didn't get to go to the funeral, which has always saddened me... because he was well-loved, and I know of at least 100 people that would have gone to that funeral. We were all in shock. I can't begin to imagine how hard it was on Chip/Mike. We had already sold sold the house on Poinciana, so we didn't see Chip & Boo as much as we had previously. Chip was probably at college, Boo was living on 20th with a girlfriend (or wife?), just east from Hamilton, if I recall correctly. My ex-husband and I had just visited them a few days before he died, but my recall is hazy, and I don't know who she was... Everyone always called my mother, "Mrs Clarke"... but not Boo, he called her "Eileen-baby", the only one, EVER, to call her by her first name. And she would always laugh... but no-one else dared. I saw Jack Bevill said something similar to that, on the '67 board, where Boo took a similar familiarity with a teacher. He was so funny.

09/25/09 07:26 PM #241     Mary Holland Thinking about places to eat made me think of the Monterrey House Mexican take-out place on W.43rd. Aluminum foil dishes filled with yummy Mexican food, a cardboard lid with a picture of a Mexican man in a big sombrero, and a donkey pulling a cart. I loved that food! Our family got it fairly often.

09/25/09 08:37 PM #242     Mildred Sue (Suzie) May (Cunningham) My mom & I did the Monterrey thing every week or two. You probably know that it's not there any more. If you haven't been in the area recently, you probably don't know that the entire center at the corner of 43rd & Oak Forest is gone! Another favorite of ours was Doyle's on 34th. It is still there. I've eaten there a couple of times in the last few months. There used to be a sign: pizzaisalwayseatenwiththefingers. I looked for it both times that I was there & couldn't find it. Orders are no longer placed at a counter. There are waitresses! "The Times They Are A-Changin'"

09/25/09 10:02 PM #243     Linda Webster Does anyone remember Barbeque Inn at Yale & Crosstimbers. Well it's still there and every Tuesday my sister takes my Mother to lunch there. I remember going there when I was at Black, so that tells you how many years it's been at the same location. I think they did some very minor renovations several years ago. I never have eaten bar-b-que but they have a great chicken fried steak and fried shrimp, and their burgers are good too. Anytime I'm in Houston on Tuesday I always go with my Mom & sister to barbeque inn. Both my sisters and I took my Mom to Doyle's on her birthday in August of this year. As usual the food is still good and you could eat off the floors, it's so clean. That's a rarity in this day in time.

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